Messages: 67 Likes Received: 0. Time-Sert thread repair system uses a thin-walled solid bushing insert made out of carbon or stainless steel. Helicoil would be cheap but not as durable as time-sert and TIG is just not a good option. I had the timeserts installed in my sons CRF swingarm when the chain adjust bolts snapped. Worked like a charm on my ported Z1000J head on Z1B 900 engine. Drill out old threads. Time-Sert vs Helicoil, two methods of thread repair, one clear winner. Australian authorized importer thread repair kit sizes a complete range including LS engine & Gen 3, M11x1.5 metric Time-Sert 1115 for Toyota engine, spark-plug thread repair, BMW engine, Ford Engine & other special kits & sump plug repair Ted . Keenserts have 4 prongs on them that you hammer down and sets it , once you do that there never coming out. Go! And a good article on KeenSert vs HeliCoil. Often underestimated, the popular misconception is that Helical wire inserts are intended solely for thread repair, when, in fact, they have other significant uses. (m10x1,5mm is more popular.) The kit number is 1130. The best thread repair system on the market! I dont have the banjo bolt and I'm aware of the HPFP stud kit but I'm leaning towards the timesert because of the clamping force / the threads being stronger. £7 an insert! VS . v. S. Mil Specification . Time sert need more metal removal. Has anyone got any recommendations as to Helicoil Plus vs. Wurth Time-Sert vs. Keensert. If you were looking for really cheap option NAPA and other auto supply stores would have over-size self threading drain plugs. Try to do heli coil first, it need less metal removal on the cam cap threats. Use Time-Sert tap to re-tap hole 4. HeliCoil . you want more strength a Heli-coil or re-coil should beef it up plenty but I would loctite in the insert. I have heard that the timeserts are better but why. Just wondering what the pros and cons are between time-serts and helicoils based on other peoples experience. Method / principle. Solid steel, copper or stainless steel bushings allow permanent thread repair in most any surface with 4 easy steps. No idea how much the instal kit is. Keensert seem to be the most expensive. COMPARISON CHART “The Giant in the Insert Industry”. If you like the content you find here, don't block the ads check them out instead. '96 Triumph Trophy - stripped plug port - timesert vs heli-coil? The unique style of this insert allows for easy installation, using a flanged top for positive placement in the tapped hole and is self-locking. I have a a cast iron block that needs the headbolts threads repaired. If I were to make a m12 x1,75 mm homemade, plug tapped m10x1,25mm and locktited it … The timeserts only downside is that they are expensive and have one more step to install. $37.99. Section: 1. 1. Helicoil vs Timesert on non N* (4.1, 4.5, 4.9) Jump to Latest Follow ... For anyone with stripped head bolt threads on this engine, I would not suggest using Timeserts as there is not enough clearance in the bolt valley for the countersink tool or the lip on the insert itself. Apparently hes not real big on lubrication. Keenserts vs. Timeserts? 3. Australian authorized importer of thread repair kit sizes in a complete range including LS engine & Gen 3, M11x1.5 metric Time-Sert 1115 for Toyota engine, spark-plug thread repair, BMW engine, Ford Engine & other special kits & sump plug repair. The previous owner used a heli-coil to attempt to repair a stripped spark plug port, which has failed. Okayyyy folks - SS helicoil vs timesert - - which is better. Wurth kit … Dumb-ass here (moi) used a torque wrench to loosen his oil drain plug bolt... in the wrong direction! Even McMaster-Carr is in the game with these key-lock inserts. The heli coil when done correctly is fine, but the thread-sert is much stronger and is a permanent fix. Close. Now, Heli-Coil makes a kit that has the 11×1.5mm common thread size which is 30mm long – no need to double up the the shorter coils. Time Sert vs Helicoil vs Your suggestions to fix stripped oil drain bolt receiving hole. (aka Heli-coil) Helical wire inserts are precision-formed continuous wire coils that provide permanent, wear-resistant threads which exceed the strength of the parent material. Insert bushing into hole with Time-Sert Insertion tool. #4. stevie t, Mar 19, 2009 #5. stevie t … Registered. Stripped one for sure and I think another hole as well and the 3rd hole has to be drilled out because part of the bolt snapped. HELICOIL ® thread inserts create high-strength, wear-resistant, heat-resistant threads of highest precision by transferring the force from flank to flank into the pilot thread. Timeserts or Helicoils This is an independent one man website solely funded by ad revenue. Another product, Lock N Stitch, from Full Torque products, for cast iron specifically, up to larger industrial sizes. I stripped the threads on my cylinder head when trying to install my camshaft bearing caps. Is it bad to have a helicoil in a strength sensitive place like the bolts that hold a cyl to a case? Need to redo the threads which take the stud which holds down the rocker covers on an R80 as both are stripped. I go to solid inserts if the hole is too damaged for a Helicoil, if the Helicoil has been too damaged to re-do, or if there is some engineering reason for it. ACME Industrial seems to do nothing but keylock inserts. Heli Coils are are held in by the spring action of the coil outward on the tapped hole… that’s it. I am not too familiar with either on of them. Posted: 08:56 - 02 Oct 2016 Post subject: Timesert vs helicoil pull-out test Here's something a lot of people are going to find it difficult to come to terms with - Helicoil beats Timesert in terms of cost, installation torque and pull-out tests. helicoil vs timesert, 2 4 3 5 1 DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS The TIME-SERT® system is based on a solid steel insert machined from a solid piece of material. I prefer the helicoils over timeserts, proper installation is key with either one. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Will need a 10.4mm drillbit I think too. Both studs and bolts would thread into the Timesert, permanently fixing the problem. 302 with stock heads which kit is the best to use for a spark plug hole? It'd be overkill to use studs because assuming your engine had a problem in the first place, the Timesert kit is essentially a guaranteed and permanent repair, so you'd never have to remove the heads again anyway. As long as you have enough engagement, helicoil will be much, much stronger than the original parent metal threads. Forgot to type in the question. Feb 17, 2011 #1. Canary95GT New Member. What are the strengths of these compared to the original bolt holes? HORUSDY 131Pc Thread Repair Kit, HSS Drill Helicoil Repair Kit Metric M5 M6 M8 M10 M12 (Black) 4.6 out of 5 stars 275. I need to perform two thread repairs on my car. By DirtDiggler , December 2, 2013 in KTM 2 Stroke Recommended Posts 44Dwarf SuperDork 12/30/13 4:27 p.m. Counter bore hole. I'm not quite sure how it happened, but trying to remedy the situation. 2. 1. and a good forum Q&A on Keen vs Time. Top 'Recoil' vs 'Helicoil' Thread Inserts? When finished, you have a nice set of solid steel threads. The thin … Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. ReCoil . Timeserts and studs would be fine, but so would Timeserts and bolts. Posted by 11 hours ago '96 Triumph Trophy - stripped plug port - timesert vs heli-coil? Time-Sert - helicoil alternative. VS . Chrislynn . The reduced diameter of the HELICOIL ® Plus in the first thread ensures that the thread insert can be screwed in like a screw. I dont have any helicoil insert tools and here in Africa m10x 1,25 mm is an odd size to get. The helicoil plus kit from Cromwell is £65. Time-Sert - helicoil alternative. by John stevens » Wed, 17 Feb 1999 04:00:00 >I need to get some thread inserts to strengthen a 3/8-16 thread in >aluminum. Joined: Jul 13, 2010. Joined Mar ... Timeserts are one piece inserts that are threaded on the OD and ID so that each of the replacement threads on the ID spreads the load out over the length of the insert. Thank you. Huge range of products here. helicoil vs timeserts Discussion in '94-95 5.0 - Specific' started by Canary95GT, Feb 17, 2011. Sorry! 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